How Friendly are Dog Friendly Restaurants? Part 2
So we’re continuing with yesterday’s post on dogs and dining. Having waded through all 169 comments from the Pensacola, FL and Albany, NY blog posts, what I want to know is this: What is it about dogs and dining that so polarizes people opinions?
Some of the angst seems directed at the notion that “nicer,” indoor-seating-only restaurants will be the targets of pet owners’ savage beasts. But frankly, most of us are just looking for a few bars, cafes, and outdoor doggie dining options to enjoy with our well behaved, leashed companions. If that message were better communicated, would some of the anxiety dissipate? For the rest of this post, let’s imagine that’s what I’m talking about.
Points and Counterpoints –
The most gracious pro-doggie dining comments simply pointed out that it’s all about having a choice:
- Everyone should have a place to go.
- People who prefer to dine sans dogs have many more alternatives available than do people with dogs
- The decision for a restaurant to go pet friendly should lie with the business owner, not with a city ordinance/state law mandate.
I distilled the negative blog comments down to these major objections … and provided a response that is consistent with GoPetPetFriendly’s manifesto and pet travel code of conduct.
#1. We just don’t understand why you can’t leave your dog at home. You’ll only be gone a short time … sheesh! It doesn’t matter if you don’t understand. Your comprehension of why and where people want to be with their pets is not relevant to the argument. And note that I didn’t pull out the “kid card” here.
#2. It’s inconsiderate for pet owners to foist their dogs on people who prefer to eat without dogs. Maybe. But you have so many choices where you can eat. People with pets don’t.
#3. Dogs are unsanitary. They lick themselves and do their business in plain view. Hmmm. I’ve seen people pick their noses and resume eating. Stick their gum under the table without a second thought. Watched parents rest their baby/toddler on a table wearing an exposed diaper. Ever wonder why employees need to be reminded to wash their hands before returning to work from a trip to the bathroom? Also, dogs walk on the same ground we do and track in the same detritus we do, albeit on four feet instead of two. To convince me of this point’s merit, I need to see statistics that support claims of humans catching diseases from dogs … in restaurants.
#4. Your dogs are not well behaved. This is one issue I can’t disagree with – because, generally, I concur. My experience is that too many people don’t take the time to properly train their dogs. It only takes a couple of barking/snarling/ growling incidents for non-pet lovers to believe all dogs should be left behind.
#5. People are allergic to dogs. Yes they are. According to one website, about 10 million Americans (3.3% of the 300 million population) are allergic to dogs. Another site says: From 15 percent to 30 percent of people with allergies have allergic reactions to cats and dogs… Cat allergies are about twice as common as dog allergies. Note that this statistic is not 15-30% of the population, just 15-30% of the subset of people who have allergies. And again, if you’re allergic, you can choose to eat inside or at a completely different restaurant.
#6. A dog might bite a customer, and the restaurant would be liable. That’s an issue for the owner to consider and protect against, not you or me.
#7. It’s against health code regulations. True. But not all laws make sense, and some bad laws are made as a result of special interests, misconceptions, or lack of good information. And let’s not imagine that Europeans are less sanitary than Americans (or Canadians) because they allow dogs inside restaurants, whereas we’re still talking about outdoor doggie dining.
Tips for People Dining With Dogs –
- If your pooch is not ready for prime time, don’t put him on the stage. Train and socialize your dog to behave like it is going to be a service dog, which is generally overlooked by everyone.
- Sit at a table where your dog can be out of the way, both of other customers and the wait-staff.
- Be alert for the comings and goings of others so you can anticipate issues before they occur.
- If your dog acts up, leave. No fuss, no muss. Apologize, if appropriate. Imagine yourself doing better the next time.
- Patronize dog friendly restaurants, even if you don’t have the fur kids with you, and personally thank management for their policy.
- And as a general tip for all pet owners, PICK UP AFTER YOUR DOG. This is THE one common gripe shared by everyone. The thoughtlessness of some pet owners is extended to anyone and everyone holding a leash.
Tips for People Dining Near Dogs –
- Ignore the dog. If you see me enjoying a relaxing meal, my dog lying peacefully at my feet, please don’t approach us asking if you can pet the pooch. In exchange, I won’t come over to your table and scratch behind the ears of your kid and get her all worked up.
- Ask for permission. If you simply can’t resist, please ask for permission to approach us before you stick your hand in my dog’s face. And don’t get hurt feelings if I say no.
- Be open minded. If you don’t like seeing dogs at restaurants, figure out what really has you bothered and see if it has any basis in fact.
So what do you think? Please share your thoughts and comments with us!
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michelechollow Jun 26, 2010 at 12:15 am
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Amy@GoPetFriendly Feb 5, 2010 at 10:46 pm
In addition - some hotels require pet travelers to stay in smoking rooms! What's up with that?!?! Smoking is a dangerous habit and second hand smoke has been proven to be life-threatening. The desire to include my pet in my daily life should not mean I should have to risk my health!
Rod@GoPetFriendly Feb 5, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Rod@GoPetFriendly Feb 5, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Rod@GoPetFriendly Feb 5, 2010 at 8:39 pm
soniawings Feb 5, 2010 at 8:24 pm
I can see some of the other side as well. I am allergic to smoke and was very thankful when my state (Arizona) passed an ordinance to ban indoor smoking. Unfortunately, this means that I have to choose between taking my dog dining or sitting smoke-free indoors. I pick smoke-free every time. From that angle, I can see why those with allergies would be concerned about allowing pets at restaurants.
Kudos to everyone who has their dog trained to be well-behaved enough to go to restaurants, etc. Like Rebecca said, not everyone is a responsible dog owner, and I think that's where the real problem is. There are too many parents (of both pets and humans) who shrug off misbehavior as cute or funny without regard to those in the vicinity. Not everyone will recognize unruly behavior as such and leave for the benefit of other patrons. Perhaps this is where the restaurant plays a bigger role - making sure that everyone is on their best behavior? Bars kick out drunks on a regular basis...
Jim (Doggybytes.ca) Feb 5, 2010 at 1:01 am
If it's working in Europe, they must have solutions for most of the concerns that people have about dogs, people and food all coalescing.
Rod@GoPetFriendly Feb 5, 2010 at 12:15 am
Ron Feb 4, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Well said!
jenjamar Feb 4, 2010 at 7:41 pm
I've done a group trip with members of MN Bully Lovers to a local bar with a dog-friendly patio. For us, when we're out in public, we know our dogs are viewed as representatives of not only the dog community, but also specifically ambassadors of our breed(s) of choice.
I think anyone dining out with their dog should keep that in mind - if your dog isn't ready for that situation, please don't set them up for failure. That only discredits the rest of the dog-loving community to other diners and staff.
astridnicole Feb 4, 2010 at 7:12 pm
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Rebecca Feb 4, 2010 at 3:32 pm
You would think the owners would have had enough sense to make sure their dogs took care of business before coming inside of the restaurant, but I guess sometimes accidents just happen!
I think the only tough thing about having dogs in restaurants is that not everyone is a responsible dog owner. Yet, everyone seems to think that they are.
Leslie Fisher Feb 4, 2010 at 3:30 pm
European countries enjoy the benefits of being able to dine with their dogs. There are studies proving the health benefits of a close relationship to a furry being. So why not? I would think those not in agreement could certainly find themselves a strictly non-doggy establishment; the latter certainly far outnumber dog friendly locations. I don`t think any responsible pet owner would attempt to bring an untrained unfriendly dog to a dining out situation, just cannot imagine it. For that matter (and I really do love kids but don`t have any) I have had a few memorable dining experiences, close encounters with shrieking unruly kids. Not going any further than that! haha!!
Ron Feb 4, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Allergies? Yes, I could see that. That's where the patio thing could work out, or just good air circulation -- I'm very allergic to cats, but it's all fine unless I'm petting one. Don't pet the dogs, or go to a non-dog place.
Anyway, as I said in your part one (and you did as well) the whole "I need to find some way to differentiate my establishment" combined with sites like yours giving basically free advertising and driving traffic (often from thousands of miles away -- I'm planning a trip using it) may just make this whole niche bloom for the benefit of dog owners, and once struggling restaurant establishments willing to take a small risk.
Bad dogs/owners? Ya, here's the sticky issue: How to tell the teenager who wants to take his growly, out of control sixteen month old protection breed pup out with his buddies for a few beers that maybe he should leave before it gets out of control. That sort of "fine line" decision that I'd hate to make...
Rod@GoPetFriendly Feb 4, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Amy@GoPetFriendly Feb 4, 2010 at 2:58 pm
I agree with Edie's comment - there are places in this world where animals are part of everyday life, and from Anil's comment yesterday - dogs in Europe tend to be better behaved. Is this rocket science?? If we are afforded the opportunity to include our dogs in our everyday lives they will be better adjusted, more well-behaved members of society. The answer to training issues is not to limit access, it's to grant more access.
Michele C. Hollow Feb 4, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Rod@GoPetFriendly Feb 4, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Rod@GoPetFriendly Feb 4, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Michele C. Hollow Feb 4, 2010 at 1:17 pm
EdieJ Feb 4, 2010 at 2:52 am
No one is requesting that dogs be allowed in Lutece (though, again, the French are far more sympathetic to the notion of animals as part of everyday life). Dogs can't be adversely influenced by bad words and inebriated behavior. Why not allow them in a few pubs and casual restaurants?