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Still a Ways to Go

I bet you clicked on this post thinking I would be writing about our roadtrip, or the RV. Nope … the title refers to Ty and Buster. You might think, since we travel so much with our boys, that their behavior is beyond reproach. Guffaw! Let’s talk about both of them.


You can't touch this ...

Ty is 5 1/2 years old. He is a purebred Chinese Shar-Pei that we purchased from a reputable breeder (back in the day before we understood the importance of adopting). At the impressionable age of 6 months, Ty was attacked by a large Gordon Setter in a dog park. Ever since then, he’s been distrustful of other dogs and people, in general.

With respect to people, he just wants to sniff them. Unless you’ve spent the night at our house, Ty won’t trust you. If you have spent the night at our house, but he forgot, Ty won’t trust you. He’s very wary of strangers. This wouldn’t be a problem (in fact, it makes him the great guard dog that he was originally bred to be), except that he is so damn cute. Why is this so bad, you ask? Because everyone wants to get in his face and pet him – no matter how many times we ask people just to let him sniff. The “oh we have a Shar-Pei, too” or the “all dogs love me” types are the worst. Those of you reading this that are in a similar position – you know what I’m saying.

Around other dogs, Ty is fearful/reactive on leash. He’ll pull like hell to get to another dog, but mainly just to sniff. Ty does best around another dog that is totally docile. (And how many of those do you think there are in the US?) Off leash, Ty is pretty good, and we have not had problems at any dog parks we’ve visited at home or on our travels.


I get deleeerious ...

Buster is 3 years old … we think. He is all German Shepherd … we think. We found him 2 years ago on the street where we lived in Philadelphia – abandoned. We rescued him before he even got to a rescue. Dog only knows what happened to him in his first formative year. He did not appear to be physically abused, but man was he starved for attention.

When we first got Buster in a car, he WHINED and BARKED at on coming traffic. It was a deafening noise that almost made it dangerous to drive. A trainer speculated that Buster was trying to herd the oncoming cars, and he was just getting a little pissy when they kept driving by, refusing to be rounded up. I understand other GSDs exhibit a similar behavior.

Around other dogs or people, Buster can be a handful on leash. Barking, pulling, and jumping … or sometimes totally ignorant of who/what he sees. Really, it’s a crap shoot. Generally, though, Buster is better for me than he is for Amy. We suspect Buster feels like Amy needs more protection. If I were a cynic, I might think that Buster just doesn’t care what happens to me.

Off leash, Buster is 100% joy on four paws. He happily approaches other people and dogs – looking for petting from the former and playtime from the latter. Buster’s only issue at a dog park is telling him it’s time to go.

What happens when you put us and them together? So glad you asked. From best behaved to worst, here’s how the possibilities stack up.

  1. Amy with Ty.
  2. Rod with Ty.
  3. Rod with Buster.
  4. Amy with Buster.
  5. Rod with Ty and Buster.
  6. Amy with Ty and Buster.
  7. Rod and Amy with Ty and Buster.

I wrote this post because I suspect many people have dogs with similar issues, are fearful of traveling with them, and therefore, won’t take their dogs anywhere. That is not what GoPetFriendly is about. We are no better or worse than many other dog owners. We try … and we’re not giving up. We look at each challenge as an opportunity to train Ty and Buster. Already, Buster has pretty much stopped his barking in the car. We can see the boys’ slow progress, both around other people and other dogs.

If your dog is really out of control, you need to work with a trainer before you travel with her. Just don’t give up. And realize that it’s probably not about the dog – it’s about you. While not a fan of Cesar Milan’s training, there is one saying of his that I really like: you don’t get the dog you want; you get the dog you need. For me, Cesar’s quote has a lot of meaning because I know the change for the better in Ty and Buster’s behavior is a result of the change for the better in mine.

If you’ve read this far, now is the time to share. What behavior issues does your dog have that keep you from traveling with your furry family member?

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Saratoga Springs for Dog-Friendly Businesses Feb 16, 2011 at 9:50 am
[...] am happy to report that Buster could not have performed any better that day. I’ve previously written that Buster has his challenges, one of which is meeting other dogs when he is on leash. However, [...]
Pet Blogger Challenge Jan 25, 2011 at 12:21 pm
[...] mistakes. And, we thought if people could see this crazy average couple traveling around with their less-than-perfectly-behaved dogs, they’d know they could do it [...]
Training Your Dog to Be Calm Dec 1, 2010 at 8:03 am
[...] post, I focused on the pieces about frustration – because I feel it a lot. We’ve told you about our dogs’ behavior issues, and honestly, I am often embarrassed by their outbursts. I get dejected when they seem to loose [...]
Fetching News – Week Ending 07.02.10 Jul 2, 2010 at 5:02 am
[...] previously reported that Ty and Buster are not the most well behaved dogs – especially when it comes to walking [...]
Elizabeth Deitz May 26, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Very honest post. Thanks!
Ty’s Too Sexy May 19, 2010 at 6:06 am
[...] in March I wrote a post explaining that both of our dogs presented some challenges, lest anyone think we traveled with [...]
Buster Named to ROAR Squad Apr 21, 2010 at 12:44 pm
[...] We are proud to see that Buster, our German Shepherd, was named to the ROAR (Rescue Owners Are Rockin’) Squad over at Fido & Wino! As Shauna says on her blog, the ROAR Squad “is all about pointing out that rescues and rescue owners are Da Bomb” … if she only new how closely “Da Bomb” describes Buster’s behavior! [...]
The Best Dog Leash Ever Apr 19, 2010 at 8:07 am
[...] may recall that our dogs still have a way to go when it comes to being poster pups for well-behaved travel companions. One of their issues is [...]
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 26, 2010 at 2:02 am
Thanks Anil. This one really came from the heart. It was like airing dirty laundry in public. Thankfully, we got a lot of great comments - like yours - that let us know we're not the only ones with issues.
Off-Leash Dog Park at James Island County Park Mar 25, 2010 at 11:33 pm
[...] and Buster spent about 1 1/2 hours at the park and made lots of friends, despite the issues we talked about in our previous post, and collapsed exhausted in the RV during our drive to [...]
Anil Mar 25, 2010 at 1:27 pm
One of my favorite of your posts, I simply loved it. I think that dogs are natural travelers, it's when owners don't quite understand them that trouble creeps up but hey, that's normal. People have trouble understanding people all the time and we're the same species and have the luxury of speaking the same language!

The key is early preparation and understanding the limits of your dog. Once you do that it's a much more relaxing travel experience!
Jim (Doggybytes.ca) Mar 25, 2010 at 7:12 am
For the most part I'd say I'm pretty lucky. Sweety has been a joy her entire almost 15 years, and the only real issue I have with Zeus is his apparent random dislike of certain dogs. There's no rhyme or reason that I can see.

Like Cesar says, "he rehabs dogs and trains people". I think I'm untrainable. :/

By the way, "all dogs love me". =P
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 2:39 am
Thanks for commenting. I just ordered the vest and two "Do Not Pet - I'm In Training" patches suggested by Robert in his comment above.
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 2:36 am
Done and done. Thanks for the sit reFURences. And now I have the subject of a future blog post!
dogloversdigest Mar 25, 2010 at 2:18 am
Kudos to you guys for sharing this. I believe that many people have the same issues. My Aussie Gavin is exactly the same way you describe Ty around strangers. He has those Aussie blue eyes that make people want to come right for his face regardless of what I tell them (and over his protestations). This does not necessarily change my travel plans with him but it does affect the situations I will let him be put in. For instance I would never go to pet friendly restaurant with him where someone could just reach down and pet him.

I am always working with my dogs so that our lives together are as rich as they can be. It's always going to be an ongoing process. :)
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 2:17 am
No water?! Now that is a travel challenge. This post has been cathartic - some sympathy, some empathy, but no "you shouldn't be traveling with your dogs."
EdieJ Mar 25, 2010 at 2:06 am
I'll add to the chorus of praise here; most people think travel "professionals" have perfect dogs, which can be intimidating to them. Frankie's shyness with both people and dogs is not so much of a problem as I initially thought, but his travel stress is: He's gone all the way from Tucson to San Diego without drinking any water, even though he's diabetic and even though I practically try to give him a bath at every rest stop. So I worry that his health is impacted by travel, because dehydration can't be good... so far, though, I've got no solution.
Robert Mar 25, 2010 at 1:36 am
http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies/servlet/Cat...

and

http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies/servlet/pro...

They have examples of ready to wear. I did the green one with two patches of "do not touch" with "in training" on both sides.
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 1:32 am
Believe it or not, Ty has been taken everywhere since we got him at 8 weeks. He is a great traveler in the car - just sleeps in his bed. Buster is still a puppy, and many GSD owners tell us we can (eventually) expect him to calm down. Our "next door neighbor" at the RV park where we've been staying a few days has a 5 year old GSD that's as mellow as can be - a goal to strive for!
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 1:28 am
Sign me up! Where do I get one?
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 1:27 am
Amy and I read that post! Isabel ... bad girl! Amy and I would love to meet your pack. Our travel plans after July are very flexible; it would be fun to get together and see what happens when we merge to become 24 legs :)
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 1:23 am
Ok, now I officially hate you. Well, maybe I'm just really a little jealous. Glad to hear that it's so easy for you to travel with Jersey. That, coupled with our website, should make it really easy for you to travel to Pennsylvania and meet up!
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 1:21 am
Glad to read that we're not the only one with some challenges. And imagine, if you will, that it's a lot harder to pick up a 70 lb German Shepherd and walk away ... not that it hasn't been tried!
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 1:19 am
There is no doubt that Ty and Buster can be a handful - at times. I am learning patience, which is something I never had. So ... I wonder who's training whom?
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 25, 2010 at 1:16 am
Thanks for the words of encouragement! We enjoy our travels even if, on occasion, we imagine that we are avoiding the eye daggers of people who watch Ty and Buster being trained.
Ruby's Raiser Mar 25, 2010 at 12:24 am
Great post! We are very lucky that Kiva (Shep/Chow mix) is an excellent traveler, but I attribute part of that to the fact that we've taken her with us everywhere we've gone since she was a small pup. Socialization is key.

We didn't have a resource such as this great site when we began traveling with her almost 12 years ago, but if you just gear yourself to "roll with it" you'll have many years of happy travel with the pooches!
Robert Mar 24, 2010 at 11:48 pm
One thing you may want to try to get people not to want to pet Ty is to put a working dog "in training" vest with a "do not touch" badge on it. I did this for Angeles when I wanted him to focus on me and keep others at bay. It worked very well.
Jill Mar 24, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Amy and Rod,

Love the honesty.

My husband Scott and I have been traveling for nearly 3 months with our dogs. We've had mostly great days with the pups—some challenges: Jack rolling in shit and Isabel attacking a cat. Scott lovingly refers to Isabel as 'The Worst Dog in the World.'
http://www.12legstravel.com/2010/02/16/the-wors...

A year-long road trip is a lot to ask of our dogs. But, I couldn't imagine traveling without them. They are good dogs. Loving and kind. I just wished they weren't obsessed with cats. Not sure how to work on that one.

Take care and safe travels. Hopefully we'll see you out on the road.

Jill
Karen Friesecke Mar 24, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Cesar's quote is very true and I got the dog that I want. A very lazy, couch potato vizlsa. I'm not sure where the princess part came in, maybe she is reflecting my inner unconscious desire to be a princess :) I'm a pretty laid back person, so inturn, my dog is too.

Jersey is an absolute pleasure to travel with. When she was 12 weeks old, I took her to the most obnoxious place that I could think of, a horse auction. I used to sell used horse tack on ebay and every week for three years I would go there to buy stuff. There is so much going on there, horses all over the place, yelling people and loud noises it was an excellent place to take a young pup. She was also a show dog, so meeting new dogs is no biggie, either.

Whenever I go somewhere, I bring the dog. That way, travelling in the car does not always mean vet time.
Rod@GoPetFriendly Mar 24, 2010 at 9:43 pm
When they were first introduced, Ty want to kill the interloper. We worked for several weeks with a trainer in order to get them together. I still remember Amy and I sitting on opposite ends of our sofa, each with a dog on a leash in order to get the acclimated.

Today, they're like brothers - meaning that they alternatively love and hate each other! Seriously, Ty likes peace and quiet and order. Buster likes to romp around. Ty tries to correct Buster for his "bad" behavior and some wrestling can ensue. At night, they sleep curled up next to each other.
Michele C. Hollow Mar 24, 2010 at 8:09 pm
How well do Ty and Buster get along? And how was their first meeting?
Amy@GoPetFriendly Mar 24, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Ron - that is so true! And training more than one dog at at time is nearly impossible!! The challenge is that our dogs obey the rules pretty well around home - they walk with a loose leash, they come when called, they don't bark at every little noise, etc., but the distractions are more unpredictable and more intensely interesting to them when we're not on "their turf."

Clearly the solution is that they need more practice, but as you know, (even when taking as much care as possible not to put them over their thresholds) there will likely be outbursts. Balancing the dirty looks from people who witness these outbursts against the desire to improve, it's easy to avoid the embarrassment and take the easy path. (I know because I've done it!!) In the long run, though, we're cheating our pals to save our egos.

Of course, I certainly don't think that every trip must include every dog, and if I'm already having a bad day, I don't worry about taking the easy road once in a while. The progress doesn't have to be at lightening speed - it just needs to be progress. I have found that walking the dogs separately, so that I can focus on them is really helping. I mean, I'm asking them to focus on me, the least I can do is return the favor - at least until they get the hang of it a bit better! I also received a recommendation from a trainer to keep a journal of our progress. I tend to measure against the ideal and then feel discouraged. The journal helps me remember where we started and look at the progress we've made. If I can keep the joy in what we're working on, we're all happier!
AndASmallDog Mar 24, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Love the post! As you both are aware, we travel everywhere with our dog (and run our own pet travel website - www.andasmalldog.com) but this started mainly due to his extreme separation anxiety (adopted him when he was 2? after his first 2 owners abandoned him - one leaving him locked in a cage on their porch for a week without food or water after they moved). So, needless to say, he has some "issues".
These "issues" carry over to strangers - much like Ty. He warms up quickly to people when he sees that they either have a.) food or b.) interest in playing ball. Then he'll be your best friend and won't stop until we tell him "no more right now" (which he understands - he's a smart Jack Russell-mix).
Bodie, again like Ty, was attached 4 times by our neighbors Pit Bull/Boxer (I was also on the receiving end). Attacked is a strong word - but the dog would come running over (and he was huge - Bodie is 17 lbs) and try to jump on Bodie. I would immediately pick-up Bodie who would make such a deafening scream that I've never heard any dog make. He was TERRIFIED. This was several years ago and this terrified-ness still carries over today to any dogs larger than him (btw - the dog's owner would pretty much laugh at Bodie and would never hurry over to leash his dog who should have been on a leash anyway as we weren't at a dog park but that's a whole other story).
Anyways- I've rambled a bit. But I just want to let you know that you are completely right and not alone. Bodie loves traveling but is not so sure about other dogs. If its small, white, and a jack russell - then he'll probably love it. Otherwise - we never know. This has led us to be careful of other dogs and we will move if he's making too much of a raucous (he's small but his bark isn't). We're very respectful of others and when asked "does he bite?", we say "he hasn't yet - but you never know" - as that is the truth.
I do believe that traveling with your dog does help him be more comfortable around people and other places - so it is also a type of training! : )
Mary-Alice@DogJaunt Mar 24, 2010 at 7:24 pm
I love this post! How reassuring to know that even pro travelers like you guys have issues that need to be dealt with AND are dealing with them AND are enjoying yourselves in the process (well, mostly!). Very useful, very inspiring.
RonM Mar 24, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Well said, and as I just got back from a trip with a single dog (booked partly based on good info from you guys, BTW :) ) I know what you mean: I decided to only take the easy dog from our pack, as the fear of the others' behavior was too great for me to risk it (among other considerations).

When you have "power breed dogs" for want of a better term (those that can do a lot of damage when they misbehave) it's harder to allow a small nip or scuffle to be part of the training, thus you end up in a spiral of "we should socialize" vs. "I'm too scared to socialize"... Never been good at solving that, thus not everyone goes on every trip. :(
Shauna (Fido & Wino) Mar 24, 2010 at 4:29 pm
This is such a great post! Such a great line: "And realize that it’s probably not about the dog – it’s about you."

Having dogs and realizing that their issues are because of me not them has been such a humbling and educational experience for me. It's been such a great opportunity to get basically get over myself.

Good on you guys for continuing to work at it. I will most certainly be doing the same :)